# Realm permission to create clients
**URL:** https://forum.keycloak.org/t/realm-permission-to-create-clients/535
**Category:** Configuring the server
**Tags:** admin-console
**Created:** [November 27, 2019, 8:19am UTC](https://forum.keycloak.org/t/realm-permission-to-create-clients/535 "2019-11-27T08:19:15Z")
**Posts on this page:** 3
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### Author:  [@RS-Sautter](https://forum.keycloak.org/u/RS-Sautter)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2019, 8:19am UTC](https://forum.keycloak.org/t/realm-permission-to-create-clients/535/1 "2019-11-27T08:19:15Z")
Hello,
I want to give a group the permission to create clients for themselves, but not see and manage a set of other clients, for which they do not have permissions. They need to be in the same realm.
I noticed that the “Create Client” button only appears, when the user has both the realm roles “manage-clients” & “create-clients”. I would want to give him only “query-clients” and “create-clients”, so that he would see/edit just a subset of clients plus be able to create a new one for himself.
How do I do that?
Thanks,
David
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### Author:  [@mhajas](https://forum.keycloak.org/u/mhajas)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2019, 9:25am UTC](https://forum.keycloak.org/t/realm-permission-to-create-clients/535/2 "2019-11-27T09:25:05Z")
Hello, I think this is what you are looking for: [https://www.keycloak.org/docs/latest/server\_admin/index.html#\_fine\_grain\_permissions](https://www.keycloak.org/docs/latest/server_admin/index.html#_fine_grain_permissions)
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### Author:  [@RS-Sautter](https://forum.keycloak.org/u/RS-Sautter)
#### Post date: [November 27, 2019, 9:41am UTC](https://forum.keycloak.org/t/realm-permission-to-create-clients/535/3 "2019-11-27T09:41:29Z")
Thanks. I am already using this and referring to those roles in my question.
It does not solve my problem. There are no fine grained permissions for creating a client.